Curse

Luciora · Sep 04, 2006, 09:03 AM // 09:03

Well my partner and I have been doing the ice king quest since we found we were able to. I use SB to stop them from casting meteor shower, otherwise I just PS,HB and bonnetis. No problem in tanking them at all then.

How do you get through the mindblades though? They are still killing me easy enough, specially when they steal energy

Then lastly, how on earth do you go through the rest of UW? We took a guildie with us running Fire nukes. That got us into the chaos planes (way too many behemoths!!!) but I got killed by a group of threshers

Something spiked me REALLY hard. No idea what it was either.

RadeonDJ9600 · Sep 06, 2006, 03:05 AM // 03:05

Mindblades are relatively easy (as they have low health) but it requires usually that the SS brings some sort of anti-interrupt (Mantra of Resolve).

Cast mantra, 55 aggros (with SB on), SS casts SV, Echo, SS, SS, AV, mindblades die...

The Threshers technically aren't part of the Chaos Planes (they're in the Bone Pits) and they use Lingering Curse, such as the Keeper of Souls in Unwanted Guests (from Reaper of the Labyrinth). The Chained Souls also use Rend Enchantments, so there's a lot of enchant removal.

If you're planning on farming just the Chaos Planes, then I would suggest going Mo/R and bringing Serpents Quickness for chaining 2 Spell Breakers in a row, as it helps with the mindblades (just make sure you cast SB when migraine is not on you, can be difficult with 9 mindblades though :X

Luciora · Sep 06, 2006, 06:51 AM // 06:51

AH Thanks Radean! I was so absorbed with the silly threshers that I forgot about the chained souls! So I need SB for them as well as the threshers?

Will the normal 55/ss team be able to clear them?

Deacon Roswell · Sep 06, 2006, 02:05 PM // 14:05

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Originally Posted by Shadow-Hunter

Why would you even need longer Spellbreaker than the 2x sec? i can take pretty much everything you meet in a normal farm run with just SB, dont need to echo or SQ it.. Even questes like Ice king is fairly doable if you time the SB right

~Shadow

Because I'm not doing just the "normal farm run". I like to clear out the normal farm run then go do mindblades and other quests.

jtjuska · Sep 06, 2006, 08:28 PM // 20:28

I am the same way in that I like to clear a lot of the Underworld out in a run. I actually have gotten to the point that when I do UW I don't stop before I clear everything up to the Four Horseman (haven't gotten this one worked out yet...). I go with guildies and most of the time we clear all the quests up to the chaos planes. Now I am going to have to try our fun with this build because we have been using dual monks with some other fun things but I rarely use SB anymore outside of the Laberynth. When I am tanking Terrorwebs I just let them meteor shower me and laugh at them as they can't kill me.

Anyways, I will definately be trying this when I get a chance as I miss my 55 build. This should be a good alternative to otherwise repetative UW questing.

~jtjuska

XvArchonvX · Sep 06, 2006, 11:27 PM // 23:27

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Originally Posted by Deacon Roswell

First of all, don't be an ass and assume the guy is bragging. Take the defenses down a bit and try not to read anything into the post.
Actually, YES he does have an alternate strategy and there is a whole thread on it. He uses a dual monk build that finishes a smite run much much faster than a monk/necro. The speed difference is insane, and this is coming from a SS necro. I made my necro purely for 2 man UW and over 6 months I got a little over 4 million EXP. Nothing exceptionally high but I was on the American servers and we all know how much America has favor. I tried the dual monk build last night for the first time and it's the easiest build I think I've ever played, and I was the "tank" monk. I'm kind of disappointed the build works so well because now I'll never play my necro, who became one of my favorite characters.
Makosi's build is great. No one is questioning that but there ARE alternatives that work just as well, and some faster. The "tank" monk in the dual monk build usually has between 500-600 HP, and still easily tank colds and dryders. It's all a matter of preference and Makosi's build is generally easier to find a partner because there are a ton of SS necros.

Remember not everyone on these boards speaks English as their native language. Try not to flame because you read something into their harmless post.

My post was not meant as a flame and I apologize if that is how you interpereted. I formed my sentence as a question because I did not know if he was bragging. I do realize that he likely did have an alternative strategy that worked also, however there was no link or full explanation. I simply did not see the point of stating that one method was better than another without explaining why (since one of the main points of these types of threads is to share information.) The dual smite build does sound interesting and I would appreciate a link to the thread if anyone has it. As for the point about language barrier, I understand that language can be a factor in these forums, but don't see how that explains posting a statement with no proof/explanation.

XvArchonvX · Sep 06, 2006, 11:27 PM // 23:27

Gah! Double post. >.<

Deacon Roswell · Sep 07, 2006, 07:16 PM // 19:16

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3031254

It's a bit hard to understand the "guide" but you should at least get the basics. I've dropped elemental resistance as it's not needed for the grasps with a full set of shing jea armor. Try it out and tweak it to your needs. It's definitely the quickest build I've seen for a smite run, with 2 people that is. The solo ritualist is still the fastest but you skip the Bladed Aatxe.

Hakuin · Sep 09, 2006, 06:53 PM // 18:53

idk if it has been said, but put your tactics at 7, and pump up your smiting a bit. bonneti's will last the same amount of time, but the adrenaline u gain from each hit will increase since your smiting attributes are higher

RadeonDJ9600 · Sep 10, 2006, 02:42 AM // 02:42

You need SB for the Chained Souls as they're like Dyings that respawn. But considering they're like Dyings, you can wand them to death relatively easily. If you can get them to spawn at different times, then you and the SS can wand them twice and they should drop.

Imo, the Bone Pits aren't really worth it if you're duoing, considering by this time your inventory should be full anyways. While ecto is dropped there, I would imagine the Spawning Pools would be significantly easier to duo, as the eles tend to drop much quicker, and there is no enchant removal in the Spawning Pools.